Discussion of End Times and the Great Tribulation

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Tuesday May 22, 2018 11:00 AM Livestream Program

Hello, I’m Doyle Davidson, servant and apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ ministering locally to the Body of Christ in Dallas and Fort Worth, Texas, sent by God to your house to declare unto you the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 15:3 and 4 tell us what the gospel is, how that Jesus Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, that he was buried, and he rose again the third day, according to the scripture.

The Spirit of the Lord is upon me because he has anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor, sent me to heal the broken hearted, preach deliverance to the captives, recovering of sight to the blind, set at liberty them that are bruised.

The word is nigh thee, even in your heart and in your mouth, that is the word of faith which I preach if you will confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God hath raised him from the dead you shall be saved, for with the heart man believeth unto righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

I’m not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, it is the power of God unto salvation, to everyone that believeth, to the Jew first and also to the Greek, therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith, as it is written, the just shall live by his faith.

David Kaspareit joins Doyle Davidson and Kathie Davidson on set today.

Doyle: Today we are going to talk about the Great Tribulation. I’ve asked David Kaspareit to join Kathie and myself. David has done considerable work, knows a lot about this and I’m going to ask him if he would like to lead off.

David: How about starting with what was in your heart this morning.

Doyle: Well, the Great Tribulation, I grew up with it, knowing it was coming, I didn’t know it would come in my lifetime. It’s in the bible and it just so happened where I went to church they could read and they weren’t afraid to call it what it said, and Jesus spoke about the Great Tribulations, they are in Revelation…but they are coming and Jesus said, “times like had never been known” (Matthew 24:21). I think the Church better know about this. Also, the word talks in Revelation about the mark of the beast and it tells what is going to happen. When the mark of the beast comes it’s going to be either in the forehead or the right hand and people that take it are doomed for the lake of fire.

Now I’m speaking from memory, I haven’t read this in a long time. That’s not pretty. I have to believe the Lord opened my mouth to lead this thing more than I want to. But folks if you don’t believe there is a hell, you are completely blinded by the devil himself. If you don’t believe there is a devil you are completely blinded. It says, if I recall, that you have to have the mark of the beast to buy or sell, otherwise you can’t buy or sell. Well, I’m going to step out of where I intended to. I serve the Lord Jesus and he reigns and rules the devil. He will reign and rule the buy or sell, the mark of the beast which decides whether you can buy or sell. I’m not telling you that I know this, but I’m considering and I’m going to keep it up and I’m not afraid to say it; my authority can overrule, buy and sell, and I can buy and sell without the mark. Now this is going to turn some religious people upside down, but you just don’t know that God isn’t going to turn everything over to the devil and deceive his people. Amen.

Kathie: Does it not say in the scriptures that those that keep their faith to the end that there are special reward, but the only way they are going to keep their faith to the end, they are going to have to live through not taking the mark of the beast. It’s an interesting thing in Matthew 24, if we consider it, you cannot buy or sell, but when Jesus comes, there will be two women grinding wheat (v. 41) one will be taken and the other left. Well if she’s grinding wheat and she’s not allowed to buy or sell, but she’s go wheat in her hands.

Doyle: Well KD, I want to say something, if all authority has been given to Jesus in heaven and in earth, and it has, and he gives that to us, and he does, I’m going to find it difficult to believe that Satan can rule my life. Now lets say this, I realize this has opened up to a discussion that I wouldn’t have even thought we’d touch. The Father fed the multitude coming out of Egypt.

Kathie: Right, they assume about two million people.

Doyle: Two million.. Now, he fed them manna right?

Kathie: Right. We talked about this this morning. He kept a cloud over them in the desert, covered all of them so that sun didn’t beat down on them, followed them by day, and the fiery pillar by night. He fed them manna, they had everything they needed to consume, and then he brought water out of rocks, rivers not just trickles, enough water for two million people. That happened more than once because the moved in the wilderness. So he kept them with food and water and their clothes didn’t wear out, nor their shoes. This is what our God is capable of.

David: I was reminded of Daniel 11, when it was talking about the king of the north and what happens after, leading up to the tribulation.

v. 32 …but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

We’ve talked about that before but that is during this time; the people that know their God will be strong and do exploits. And then chapter 12 says:

v. 3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
We’ve talked about this before, but this is during this time.

Doyle: You see I’m not afraid to walk in this. Now in Daniel 11 (v. 35) it talks about people falling, but they don’t die, though some do, I understand that. But the Church has to rule.

Kathie: Jesus describes it, lift up your heads, your redemption draws nigh (Luke 21:28); well that’s not a beaten down people.

Doyle: We are going to be tried, I know that, but folks, you can’t fear what God ordains to try you. Are you there? We’re going to be ok, but now let me tell you, those that say the rapture will come and the Church will be gone, that is no more scriptural, not at all. And do you know they preach and teach from fear, not faith? And you know what else they lack? They don’t believe the gospel. I didn’t know we were going to get this wild, but I’m not afraid to talk about this.

I’m going to tell you this, if you take the mark of the beast you’re going to the lake of fire.

David: Can I read where it gives proof of that, so we all know?

Doyle: Please do.

David: It’s in Revelation 14, it says,

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Doyle: So that’s scriptural.

David: That’s plain, very plain.

Kathie: If I an interject here, in the last several months, there have been some things that have happened in the world that is alarming when you read about this. It was funny, and I’m sure it was God because David and I knew we were going to be up here and we had to take my Cadillac to get some repair and we were stuck at a train crossing and we were talking because we couldn’t do anything else. Many believe that the tribulation is going to begin with a treaty and it’s in Daniel 9:27

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

He shall confirm the covenant. David and I were talking, that’s a treaty, and what’s interesting and we need to be paying attention to is: Jerusalem needed to be the capital of Israel and it wasn’t considered that would come to pass, until lately. It happened when President Trump said we are going to move the embassy to Jerusalem. So Israel just celebrated on May 14th their anniversary of seventy years being a nation. And they celebrated with America, the United States moving their embassy to Jerusalem. And then last week, President Trump announced the he has a peace plan that he will bring out next month. If you look at that peace plan, one of the things is that the Palestinians don’t get Jerusalem, they will move them to another city, and I believe Trump is suggesting that the capital of the Palestinians will be Abu Dis. If that is the case and that happens and Jerusalem becomes the capital [of Israel], turn with me to Zechariah 12: 2 and you will see, this is happening right now, in the UN, in our government, in Europe, everywhere:

2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

What have we seen happening in the UN?

3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people…

That’s what we hear in the news constantly, “What are we going to do about Jerusalem?” The UN is saying one thing, we’re saying another. It says:

...all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

If Trump’s treaty is that covenant, that may be from what I read, that is the beginning of the tribulation. Because in the treaty they will allow Israel to build the temple.

David: In Matthew 24 Jesus said, the period of Great Tribulation will start when that abomination of desolation occurs (v. 15-21). So that confirmation of the covenant could happen years before. [Kathie: Right, once that stands…] Then you are in a timeline that can’t stopped.

Kathie: Right, and that’s three and a half years.

David: Right, in the midst of a week. [Kathie: Right] And the covenant we talked about, it’s the same word in Hebrew, the exact same word as the covenant God made with Abraham concerning the land. And what’s the big deal? The big controversy? It’s over the land, who had rights to the land—and that’s what’s on the front burner.

Kathie: You made a very good comment this morning that I had not considered about the beast and about the false prophet; because many talk about, “Well where’s the beast going to come from?” Is he a Jew? Is he a European? What is he? And you made a very good comment, would you share that?

David: It’s in Revelation 13, it talks about the beast, the first beast and then there’s a second beast, the first beast consists of heads and horns but then there’s also one horn and you have to go back to Daniel to get a better understanding of it, that it’s the king of the north and it ends up being one man. But the first beast it says, comes out of the sea and the sea being many people and nations and it’s a group. [Doyle: Amen.] [Kathie: Right] But then later, Revelation, you see the beast is referring to one man that the second beast, which is later called the false prophet, elevates and gets people to worship, and it says the false prophet is the second beast that has two horns like a lamb, and he comes out of the land. [Kathie: Right.] That seems to be the land of Israel.

Kathie: Right, the covenant that God made with Abraham.

David: That’s what it looks like. But, we will see it when it happens, because this guy is going to do miracles. He’s going to bring down fire from heaven in the presence of the beast and people will worship him---the beast, we know that.

Kathie: The three and a half years, it talks about that several times. It talks about it in Revelation, the days,

David: Forty-two months, times, times, time and a half of time, it gives several different ways of describing that time.

Kathie: Right.

David: It’s very specific, in Revelation 12 its talking about the woman that brought forth a man child and this is verse 6:

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

And then go on to verse 14:

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

And then in the chapter 13, the beast, the first beast it says:

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

Which is three and a half years, so that is clear what Jesus was talking about after the abomination of desolation there should be, I’ll read that as well. Matthew 24:21:

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

So there is what you referred to and that occurs immediately after, verse 15 says

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,

And you go to Thessalonians (2 Thess 2:4) Paul says specifically, “in the temple.”

…(whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

So that’s when those people living right there, who probably are thrilled with everything that is going on right now, the embassy moving to Jerusalem, they are going to have to get out quick when this happens.

Kathie: Right. It also says in Revelation 11:

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

And it also says in verse 2:

2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

So we see three and a half, three and a half, three and a half.

Kathie: Are you satisfied?

Doyle: It doesn’t take a lot to satisfy me, just the truth. David are you?

David: I think so.

Kathie: Well we know more than anything else, we don’t take the mark, you don’t take the mark of the beast. You just don’t.

David: It says if your name is written in the Lamb’s book of life you will not, but it says everyone whose name is not written will worship the beast (Revelation 13:8), but if your name is in the book, you will not.

Doyle: Thank God I’m glad you brought that out.

Kathie: Jesus tells us about the ten virgins, five that had oil in their lamps and five that did not and he warned us to be ready, with the ten virgins. He said those that had the oil, were ready when the bride groom came and those that were not ready didn’t go (Matthew 25). I have never seen in the earth, never read in all the history I’ve studied, the times like they are now, and Israel—we read in Isaiah, God birthed a nation in one day (Isaiah 66:8). We shared before, the UN did not want to do that. The UN got together and they were going partition Israel and President Truman knew if he did that, Israel would never become a nation. So, he stepped in front of them and signed that document that said he recognized the state of Israel and that’s when Israel was born in one day. So we know that scripture is true, and now we are in a place where Jerusalem is recognized by the United States to be the capital of the Jews and that has not happened since 1948. They tried to make it happen and it didn’t happen. None of our presidents had the courage to do that and now President Trump has done it. What he’s coming out with, this peace treaty, this accord that he wants, we need to pay very close attention to.

David: Amen, that’s what we’re doing, “Watch and pray”.

Doyle: May I talk? 2008 something happened that surprised me and that was, President Obama was elected. Is that not true? [Kathie: That is true.] The election in November of 2008 elected President Obama. You know what the Lord said to me? He said:

“Senator Obama the Lord is saying to you, His hand is against you because you have lied to His people and you made promises to His people that you cannot keep."

Well most certainly the words that the Lord said to me were true. Now pressure, darkness, heaviness came down on me in a great way. I can go straight to 2009 when he was inaugurated, sworn in , what happened to me. You know that KD. [Kathie: Right]. It came down, but it didn’t come down like it did the second time he was elected.

Kathie: Right after he took office the second time. That was when you lost your eyesight.

Doyle: Now you see since 1970 I’ve been an intercessor in America, appointed by God, not me, praying for this country and watching God do things through my prayers that just amazed me, but they happened. Well, the shock of my life at that certain time was 2013. Would you agree? [Kathie: I agree.] It just amazed me.

Kathie: I remember that election in 2012. I remember how things interfered, it looked like in October that things were going to turn around and Obama was not going to be reelected, the momentum was with the Republicans. The last week or two before the election there was a great storm that hit the northeast, [Doyle: That’s right.] and that storm was catastrophic to that area, but it caused a situation where the Republican candidate stopped talking and everyone started hailing Obama’s help and the whole election turned and they couldn’t stop the momentum and Obama got back into office.

Doyle: Now, whether you believe I’m a prophet and an apostle doesn’t make but 15 cents worth of nothing to me, you understand that? You can laugh, you can do anything you want to that God will let you. I know who I am in the Lord. I know what God has done.

In 2013 God showed me Daniel 11:20-28, right KD? [Kathie: That’s right] Daniel 11:20, is president Obama.

David: Can I say you know what convinced me of that? In 2012 when the Supreme Court put out their opinion that his major legislation that he signed, the Affordable Care Act, was a tax, the penalty was a tax. That verse 20 says a raiser of taxes. Biggest tax raise, who knows how big.

Kathie: And it was interesting when you first started praying against it, the words God gave you were, “Would you tax the righteous to reward the wicked?” and it wasn’t a tax then. It wasn’t a tax until the Supreme Court stepped in, but God knew it was going to a tax.

David: The Supreme Court had no choice, they had to obey the word of God, they had to.

Doyle: And that was the chief justice.

David: That’s right. He took a lot of heat for it but that was the plan of God.

Doyle: Nobody but God. I stood before the Lord in a strong stand (March 13, 2010). We had just came home from Oklahoma.

Kathie: Right. We had just got home and there was a spirit of prayer and we prayed fervently for about a half-hour to forty-five minutes and then we started talking.

Doyle: You were sitting down I believe, I was but I got up, and I started addressing the judge of the whole earth. Right? “The judge of the whole earth, will you not do right?” I wasn’t afraid, but I was well aware I was standing, talking to the judge of the whole earth. I was amazed how strong I was and what my prayer was. I believe you cannot tax the righteous to reward the wicked, right?

Kathie: That would be far from you Lord.

Doyle: That would be far from you Lord. Notice I called it a tax.

David: That’s right.

Kathie: That’s what was so amazing, because it wasn’t a tax then.

David: Well it was, they didn’t call it a tax, but it was, they lied.

Kathie: Right.

Doyle: I tell you, I said it many times.

Kathie: Oh you went for a while.

Doyle: My chest, abdomen was so full of power I was blowed up like a big balloon, standing before the judge of the whole earth, “that be far from you to tax the righteous to reward the wicked.” Well you can check out from that day on all the studies you want to follow, and you are going to learn something about my prayer before the judge of the whole earth.

Kathie: What was amazing, when you talked about Daniel 11, in verse 21,

21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person,

And I remember one day the Lord led me to look up vile, and it’s despised. When I saw that, that’s what convinced me, because we have a president now that everybody despises, both parties, everyone, countries, nations, all despise this one man and that’s what convinced me that Daniel 11 was America.

Doyle: I must say, KD, I thought that election would be a democrat. He was voted in as a Republican, and that’s verse 21, right? [Kathie: Right.] I thought I had missed God, till you read verse 21 to me and then I said “Ok, alright, I can handle this.”

David: Something interesting that I’ve come across in reading about the anti-christ, the one man, is referred to as the man of sin, and the son of perdition and there is another man in the scripture called the son of perdition and that was Judas Iscariot that betrayed him. Jesus hired him, knowing what he was going to do. He gave him authority to go cast out devils, do miracles, knowing who he was, that he was the son of perdition, knowing he would be the one that would be lost out of his hands according to the will of God. So this next son of perdition might look like some really nice guy.

Doyle: Amen.

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Kathie: I was reminding Doyle during the music, I was here the day Doyle prophesied that God would begin to open up Israel’s eyes in 2018 and look what’s happened in Israel this year. Jerusalem is becoming the capital of Israel and that hasn’t happened in a couple thousand years, so things are moving along very quickly. I want to bring up, Doyle and I talked about this yesterday, if you cannot see in Revelations 6:4, about the red horse, [and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth and that they should kill one another] that people kill and kill each other. It’s not talking about wars, it’s talking about people killing each other. We have had that constantly in the news: of families blowing up places, women with babies blowing up places, in the United States, students with their guns, killing in high schools, in malls, in movie theatres, and with automobiles and all kinds of other weapons; if you cannot see that that is the red horse, and if that is the case, the clock is ticking. We really do need to watch what Trump’s treaty or what his plan for the middle east is when he puts it on the table.

Doyle: Mercy, grace…be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God and the Lord Jesus Christ, God bless you.

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